Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

rewatching it to see how my opinion would change since the last time i watched it, my taste in film and how preceive certain aspects has changed.

imo atsv is still good but a lot of problems add up.
some characters are present but don't do a lick of importance like peter B. parker, margo kess, jessica drew are just there and thats sad especially for peter. he used to be very important in the first film and you don't need a lot of screen time to be important but i don't feel like he did all that much in the end.
pavitr and hobie feel much more characterized in their limited screentime.

the film is far more of a mess then its predeccesor. where that film was tight in its narrative, this one is all over the place.
one half is given to the spot and one to the spider society.
i think the second half is a lot more engaging then its first.
don't get me wrong, i like seeing miles struggle with his relationships but also the spot is there and while he's a good villain, he dissapears from the second act entirely and at the point where he comes back at the end for a cliffhanger he loses half of his evil presence. also miles and his family stuff entirely dissapear in the second half despite being set up as plot point.

obviously these plot points will be hopefully resolved in the next installement but i don't think that should excuse why its suddenly just buried. i mean yeah its one part of a two parter but it also should stand on its own and i think you can't just drop it out of nowhere.
his family stuff does somewhat connect to wanting to see gwen again but its not an indirect reason.

jumping from focus is not inherently a bad thing but when the things are so big, it then and only then becomes a problem.
the film is still engaging and fun, miles and gwen are character i still think are fun to follow, they both are trapped in a film that can't make up its mind on what it does and just sets up a billion things that are gonna happen in the third film.

i think the film inherently wants to explore the racism miles faces as a black person in both the film and in real life as the spider society is a sort of metaphorically being for that and on one hand its a decent metaphore but on the other hand, all of these people face in some way as much as he does. there are literal black people in the film and while racism inside of ones community isn't uncommon, it doesn't come over very well for its metaphore, its suppose to be about the superhero fandom and while i don't want to generalize but lets be honest the superhero fandom is 85% comprised of white males and those are the ones who mostly think miles is not spider man and so that entire metatextual metaphore becomes incoherent.

also, sure its a great film but no amount of good things is gonna distract me of nostalgia that is implanted and fan service in this.
spider people we've never seen in a film, thats fine but my limit is donald glover prowler and the sony spider man villain cinematic universe(godawful name lol)

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Yep,pacing still an issue

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Movie 1:has spider noir.
Movie 2:no spider noir.
One movie is clearly better then the other

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The only negative is that the movie ends and it doesnt give us a single spider noire/nicholas Cage line

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rewatching it to see how my opinion would change since the last time i watched it, my taste in film and how preceive certain aspects has changed.

imo atsv is still good but a lot of problems add up.
some characters are present but don't do a lick of importance like peter B. parker, margo kess, jessica drew are just there and thats sad especially for peter. he used to be very important in the first film and you don't need a lot of screen time to be important but i don't feel like he did all that much in the end.
pavitr and hobie feel much more characterized in their limited screentime.

the film is far more of a mess then its predeccesor. where that film was tight in its narrative, this one is all over the place.
one half is given to the spot and one to the spider society.
i think the second half is a lot more engaging then its first.
don't get me wrong, i like seeing miles struggle with his relationships but also the spot is there and while he's a good villain, he dissapears from the second act entirely and at the point where he comes back at the end for a cliffhanger he loses half of his evil presence. also miles and his family stuff entirely dissapear in the second half despite being set up as plot point.

obviously these plot points will be hopefully resolved in the next installement but i don't think that should excuse why its suddenly just buried. i mean yeah its one part of a two parter but it also should stand on its own and i think you can't just drop it out of nowhere.
his family stuff does somewhat connect to wanting to see gwen again but its not an indirect reason.

jumping from focus is not inherently a bad thing but when the things are so big, it then and only then becomes a problem.
the film is still engaging and fun, miles and gwen are character i still think are fun to follow, they both are trapped in a film that can't make up its mind on what it does and just sets up a billion things that are gonna happen in the third film.

i think the film inherently wants to explore the racism miles faces as a black person in both the film and in real life as the spider society is a sort of metaphorically being for that and on one hand its a decent metaphore but on the other hand, all of these people face in some way as much as he does. there are literal black people in the film and while racism inside of ones community isn't uncommon, it doesn't come over very well for its metaphore, its suppose to be about the superhero fandom and while i don't want to generalize but lets be honest the superhero fandom is 85% comprised of white males and those are the ones who mostly think miles is not spider man and so that entire metatextual metaphore becomes incoherent.

also, sure its a great film but no amount of good things is gonna distract me of nostalgia that is implanted and fan service in this.
spider people we've never seen in a film, thats fine but my limit is donald glover prowler and the sony spider man villain cinematic universe(godawful name lol)

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse2023

00

Read review

Yep,pacing still an issue

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse2023

00

Read review

Movie 1:has spider noir.
Movie 2:no spider noir.
One movie is clearly better then the other

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse2023

00

Read review

The only negative is that the movie ends and it doesnt give us a single spider noire/nicholas Cage line

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse2023

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